Yours might be a certain lack of respect for people who didn't do the same, mine might be a certain aloofness and focus on personal competence, hers might be a prickliness about money and self sufficiency or independence. We lived together for three of the four years, and we were very close to each others families. But my boyfriend and I are graduate students, so thats unrealistic. My resentment was exacerbated by my exs habit of criticizing my level of productivityaccording to him, I wasnt writing as frequently or as well as I should be. Calling off the wedding and ending the relationship (two separate instances) were both heartbreaking, but it was easy enough to explain were not getting married because hes gay. When his next serious relationship was with a woman, that really shook me because then it was like *I* just hadnt been good enough. Your girlfriend may be fortunate in her privileged upbringing, but it's taken her just as long to find a real and realistic mate - so there's an example of equality of opportunity for starters. He grew up near me, but with a very different type of family. Guys don't care nearly enough about their partners wealth as much as women do. Besides his fitness and amount of past relationships and hookups, his parents were both CEO's and made a ton of money. I get that digital messaging is smoother than messy talk with real people, but calling the police on a baseless hunch, without even trying to phone your friend first, seems sad. I am a teacher by day and also love to travel whenever I can. I was completely blown away. You were with him for four years. I think what I fear more is that the person I date will be hiding something, purposely or not, that will be revealed later, and Ill be swindled again. Tell us a bit about yourself! Eventually maintaining this freedom became a priority in life. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. A reader asked: "My boyfriend comes from a wealthy family. He was angry that I couldnt be there for him for awhile. Your girlfriend may be fortunate in her privileged upbringing, but its taken her just as long to find a real and realistic mate so theres an example of equality of opportunity for starters. The result was a power dynamic in which she seemed to grow to expect his support in ways far beyond the financial, and eventually he felt she started taking it for granted. But in romantic relationships, the issue is ultimately unavoidable. He doesn't have any degree and works temporary jobs. It's hard to empathise with . Weve remained friends even best friends but now I regret not taking the space apart that was needed to heal and get over the situation, now I feel that it is too late to step back and take that time away because to me honestly it seems to hurt more and more but other days it doesnt hurt at all. I'll show you how. Reality TV, meet the reality of airing secondary school-era bullying. Were friends now, but it took a while to get there. Now that someone has broken his heart he sees now what he put me through.. Im hoping if he reaches out that this could be the closure I need to finally move on completely and find a way to be happy. She doesnt live nearby, so weve kept in touch by text for the last 15 years. When he first brought this up, he wasnt bragging, but simply letting me know a matter of fact. The life I had built with him, the city I was in because of him, my plans to marry him and be part of his family, the friends who knew us as a couple for so long, the thought of telling my parents that he was gay. You said that your parents just gave you a car that was worth three times what her whole family lives on in a year. Weirdly, this new dread of voice calling is not uncommon. She might not have said it but she might not be able to afford the insurance and gas on a $60k car. As for the meal, I would guess she probably already feels pretty insecure about the difference in backgrounds and probably wants to fit in with your family as much as possible. Tell us a bit about yourself! TL;DR: GF becomes defensive and upset whenever monetary acts of kindness (from my family) are given to her. Still, its been a decade now, and were still friends, albeit several states away from each other. Being around rich guys also makes me feel overly vulnerable. A year after his bitter breakup, he began dating a girl from a wealthier family than his own. Why Do I Keep Fantasizing About Being a Kept Woman? But it is not your fault. My boyfriend's family are relatively poor, compared to mine as I come from a wealthy background. Rice is Asias alternative voice. He would also willingly pay for $20 eggs on toast frequently. We hardly have time to cook, clean or even go out for dinner. Anonymous #1. In addition to what I mentioned in the previous question, he was adventurous and outdoorsy, which has always been attractive to me in a partner. We are. Ill be sitting by their bedsides reading them Wordsworth before theyre verbalclearly theyre going to be geniuses. For the first ten minutes of the conversation, I thought more about calming him down, and letting him know that it was okay and I was glad he told me. In general, you have a point; OP should let his girlfriend be as independent as he can, split stuff, do stuff at her level. Some people need someone who can actually understand them. Every year, his parents take him and his siblings on an extravagant vacation. Stay strong queens ! It could be that your boyfriend doesnt feel as if hes in a position to share his or his parents money with somebody who, despite talking about spending the future with him, isnt ready to walk down the aisle. First of all, I would say remember that IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Its often discussed, without the realisation that it is close to the bone. Evidently, he didn't buy. My immediate reaction was to support himbecause he was so emotional. We take each other out on dates (and don't demand that the other split it), buy gifts for each other, etc. The Singaporean Comfort In Staying Single Forever. What were the signs? Mariella replies Havent you done well! And we only dated for like a year and half! A few years ago, we had a little text argument, and at a certain point, I suspected her husband of texting for her. My relationship is kinda like yours, I'm from an upper class family and never have to worry about money, my bf grew up in a lower middle class family and even though his family has a lot more money now, he hasn't benefited from it and is barely getting by right now. I saw him as out of touch with reality- he had no concept of his own good fortune, and lived his life with the underlying assumption that he wasn't any different. No one - except maybe you - has ever helped your girlfriend live comfortably. Over the years he would say things to our friends and justify dumping me for reasons outside of his sexuality so that the blame could be placed on me. Have any of you experienced something similar from either side? He's awesome, sweet, funny, and as you already know, he makes bank. I've always hated talking about money. I come from a very, very rich family to be honestBut, guess what!! A reader wants to get away with her boyfriend, but most of his vacation time is spent on costly vacations with his wealthy parents trips she cant afford to go on herself. Ill neither chastise you nor seek to dissuade you from giving the matter careful consideration. At the same time, what I love more than money itself is enjoying my own money. Breathless: The Biggest Taboo in Relationships Isn't SexIt's Money. My Boyfriend's Back: Directed by Bob Balaban. But the trend is also increasing the countrys income inequalityfor example, two married doctors are far richer than two spouses who make minimum wage. With many other guys I met online, I wouldnt even bother to meet them in real life once I found out that they were obnoxiously wealthy. If these conversations havent happened in the five years youve been together, its important that you have them now. But even so, why can't I also benefit from his wealthy parents like my quasi-sister-in-law does? Ryans the son of a wealthy doctor, and after a year of dating his girlfriend from grad school, he thought she began to feel his life was a bit too breezy next to her middle-class hustle. [Verse 1] I can't believe we're finally alone I can't believe I almost went home What are the chances? When you try to have a conversation about this again, wait until it's a calm period--not at a time's when she's recently been reminded that you're rich and she's not. We have been dating for 8 months. In hindsight, the professional insecurity I felt as a Sriracha slave was a major factor in why I came to see my ex-boyfriend as such an annoying little rich boy. He was confused, but I just thought the timing was wrong, so when he contacted me 6 months later and said he wanted to talk with me I thought he wanted to get back together. When it comes to extreme wealth, people often think that marriages occur within the same socioeconomic background because of some crazy plutocratic nonsense. He got right to the point. When you grow up in a shitty situation, your highs are never high and your lows are never low. You say in the same breath: "I love my boyfriend and want to live with him and spend my life with him. Or any of the above might be something else entirely. It might be helpful for you to consider the situation through your boyfriends eyes. Personally, I think its reasonable to ask your boyfriend of six years to give up one ski vacation in Gstaad with his family to stay with you at a cozy cabin in the Catskills. I cut all ties with him but discovered that a couple of years ago he married a woman. They naturally assume that they no longer have to worry about money once they marry into a rich family. Two months later, shes been too busy to open them. (Parents pay for dinners generally, they wouldn't single out a working-class girlfriend.). My boyfriend has a good, stable job though and has always worked hard to get what he wants. This is her story. He wasn't flashy with his money and he was generous with me- but though we were friends and fwb, it could never progress to an actual relationship. He has a girlfriend.". Money can signify so many things: love, acceptance, commitment, safety. I am a teacher by day and also love to travel whenever I can. Finally, no I don't think this is insurmountable. Your boyfriend is right that how his parents choose to handle their money is between them, but whats between the two of you is how you talk about the money you do have and what you do with it. Theres no reason why two people who love each other cant surmount the barriers to be faced as you navigate a future together, but yours is deeply embedded and insidious enough to creep up on you when you are most vulnerable. Instead, our difficulties mostly stemmed from his unhappiness. As you are finding out one's philosophy of money impacts all areas of life. If your boyfriend is unwilling to miss even one family vacation to travel with you, he is telling you something (not great) about your relationship. His very wealthy parents. At the core, our financial arguments are often questions of values, or self-worth. Your own familys history might be contributing to the feelings youre having, but that history doesnt have to define your future. I think it says a lot of good things about you that youre still friends with him <3. So much to say, but I realize that every persons experience is so different. ", What can I do to overcome this? Other Hints To Tell If A Guy Is Rich. Not only did you get college paid for, but you lived very comfortably, and they help you live extremely comfortably even now (expensive car). 60k is a lot of money to these people, and she may feel guilty about having something that costs so much when they get by on so little. From $12,000 per month trust fund payouts to a rich girl's parents buying clothes for the . but I dont know that Id rather be confused with anyone else. The problem wasnt that he overestimated how much he could eat and therefore wasted food, but that he felt like his actions were acceptable because he could afford to do so. I hope he chooses you. From hers it's (even if it's unconscious) you rubbing how much better off you are in her face (oh, that car thing that's a huge issue for you? It's even harder when it's your significant other. In the bigger picture, all this reflects a fundamental difference in our character and life experience, two criteria that have been known to make or break my relationships. I can totally, TOTALLY see how thatd be challenging. Why didnt YOU know? Like, I consider myself an ally: Ive taken positive space training courses, I am a vocal supporter of marriage equality, same-sex adoption, and ending the ban on MSM blood donors, I have several close friends who are gay. What does this mean?) and unbelievably heartbreaking (as breakups with your first real love tend to be). Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. I think I can relate with how you feel. Be My Boyfriend: With Shin Hyun-Seung, Lee Si-woo, Daekyum Ahn, Lee Hyun Park. I was the first person he had ever said this out loud to, and it was a huge experience for both of us. But Im way better than I was when it first happened 2 months ago. The situation was more complicated and confusing than a typical breakup, so it helped to talk to a trained therapist about it all. By the time we broke up, Id been playing Daddy Warbucks for so long that she had developed this totally hypocritical sense of entitlement. These are long trips that are booked in advance (like cruises and tours), so he cant leave early, and they use up most of his vacation time. Not sad, really, but more like OMG HOW DID I NOT SEE? With the rich, especially young guys who grow up enjoying their family's wealth, it's a demonstration of affluence, status and power, subconscious or otherwise. But it seemed playful, almost like an act. Over time, her concern became increasingly serious. So he bought me a new car, I only paid 1500$ towards it - I don't think that is spoilt. Can it work out with an ex a bit further down the line? Like any breakup or divorce, you are grieving the end of your relationship and life as you know it. Press J to jump to the feed. I was happy sexually and emotionally. You want to spend . But after taking care of everything myself through actual hard work and sheer willpower, it felt like he had this naivity and ineptness. I would try to talk to her by telling her that, but by also saying that as someone who IS lucky, you like to share, and that you don't see sharing things with her as saying she "can't do it." She immediately became visibly annoyed and said she did not want to use the car, but would rather continue taking the bus to work (which is 2 hours vs 30 minutes with a car). The rich or the poor naturally find their intellectual matches generally from their own socioeconomic background. It also helped a lot when we married other people. It has since come to light that hes gay and ITS NOT MY FAULT. He started off explaining that he was confused, and had been thinking about it for several months, but wasnt 100% sure. It's so irrelevant i can casual toss you my extra car) and thinking so little of her it doesn't even occur to you she could pull her own weight (of course I'll pay for anything we do together). I feel bad Bc Im upset that Im kind of mad at him. Over time, what I originally thought of as positive encouragement began to seem like snobby judgment, and I just couldnt relate to him anymore. When I first moved to New . You say you work in the charity sector, which will have brought you nose to nose with those less privileged than yourself, so you will be better aware than most of the lottery of life and how luck is as much of a currency as talent or tenacity. ", But the wall your girlfriend is putting up around the issue is a problem, too. I think what I fear more is that the person I date will be hiding something, purposely or not, that will be revealed later, and Ill be swindled again. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. You also know better than I do how much you like to have the last word. My boyfriend and I have been dating for over four months now. Or it may be that he isnt ready to commit to youand the financial arrangement between you two reflects thisin part because of the painful dilemma youre creating for him around his family. LTA said the average width of our public bus seat is 42cm and is "sufficient for each passenger". Why Wont My Boyfriend Skip Family Vacations to Travel With Me? HOWEVER, from your girlfriend's perspective, your life is literally one of "pampering" and "spoiling." idk how to both handle my parents and be safe around them. Follow her on Twitter @mariellaf1, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, My girlfriends family and friends are lovely, but I cant get over my feeling of inadequacy.. The juggernaut viral video platform announced major changes for under-18 users on Wednesday, with a one-hour daily screen . He would also willingly pay for $20 eggs on toast frequently. But unlike anger, resentment is generally a defense of our egoit causes us to oversimplify things, and prevents us from seeing our partners point of view clearly. These feelings you are having need to be aired and shared, but I suspect doing so within the confines of the relationship wont be enough, which is where a professional can really help. It may be your partners fault, societys fault, or a combination of many different factors. Thanks so much for sharing your story, friend. We were together a year and he broke up with me right befor I went back to school in January. It's me, I know, but living a hard life changes and matures you. We hardly see each other, we hardly go on vacations, we're basically just getting by. Ticktock time could be running out for the teens of TikTok. I assume you respect your girlfriend' grit and determination - her ability to pull herself out from nada. Heres hoping the police wont be necessary. If they care for each other this is a lot smaller a hurdle to clear than a lot of relationships have to clear. You may even, without realizing it, want his parents to make up for the care you feel you arent getting from your own parents. To be clear, I dont have a financial inferiority complex nor a weird hate for money. So much to say, but I realize that every persons experience is so different. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Lee Seungmin is the epitome of an ordinary Joe. Im so confused that he has done this to someone else and Im wondering if he ever loved me or what is going on really. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are both part of The Student Room Group. First of all, I would say remember that IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. This may even prompt his wealthy parents to cover your costs. That's not a bad thing! Ive dated very rich menits New York, theyre everywhereand was aware that, if things got serious, my lifestyle could improve dramatically. 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