Amanda Shires, performing during the Americana Awards at Ryman Auditorium on Sept. 22, 2021 in Nashville. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem.. And Milk Cow Blues goes like this. When we overturn Roe, we risk going back to, Oh, now same-sex marriages cant happen. Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. And I think theres more valuable strength there than there is in suppressing your emotions and poisoning yourself with your own feelings, I guess. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, SWIMMER), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? What made you think of yourself as his disciple? If you share your story or share your beliefs, youre going to get some haters and trolls. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. GROSS: Yeah. Victoria is scheduled to open for Isbell on this tour. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. And why did you want to work it into a song? Thank you for your songs. Its you, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, Maren Morris. A person having a miscarriage may have to fly to another state, just so they or their doctor doesnt get into legal trouble. GROSS: Lets take another break here. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe (Rolling Stone), Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts (Variety), This is a BETA experience. Editors picks We want to hear it. This fight is about more than just abortion. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. A parking lot at night is a setting in which many women have learned to feel unsafe, to hurry about their business with heightened awareness that any strange figure approaching may have sinister intentions. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. Why didnt more people show up and speak up? SHIRES: Sure. SHIRES: I dont know that well, I dont know that I was going to leave or that Jason was going to leave. And I said, Id love to. The Highwomen were tapped as last-minute fill ins, though founding member Amanda Shires was unable to attend as she continues to recover from an emergency GROSS: Oh, thats great. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud, If you say those things out loud, it makes a difference. I would like to challenge other folks who have platforms to actually use them. Wills was the father of western swing. GROSS: So that was Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 1940, their song, New San Antonio Rose, with Leon McAuliffe on steel guitar. So lets do that. ", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? And sometimes Tommy would show me stuff on guitar, like a melody to play, and then see if I could memorize it or retain it or whatever. SHIRES: Yes. People will have to prove that they have been raped. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine Maybe I was asking for a little too much. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. Im your Amanda. SHIRES: No, not until a couple of years ago. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. When her distinctive vibrato appears on To the Sunset, as a subtle emotive tool or punctuation in her storytelling, it feels like an electrical charge shuddering through the live wire of her voice. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. As they talked, Isbell was struck with a realization. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. ISBELL: (Singing) And all I could think to say was. I still miss the way you lean in. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Theres a lot of things you do with your hands, but it struck me the most is matching the feeling of desperation or even begging. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. Lets get back to my interview with Amanda Shires, a great singer and songwriter who also co-founded the band The Highwomen, which is a kind of all-star country music band. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). credit: John Shearer. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van so I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and Top 40 country music. The song is called Empty Cups.. While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. SHIRES: (Singing) Trying not to think of names. On Shires' latest record, her songwriting is more fearless and vulnerable than ever but as always, it's a reflection of an artist focused intently on community, equality And I know that Jasons platform is bigger than mine. She sings of the excruciating awareness of both mirroring and superseding her own mother. Live Nation also announced a vaccination requirement for employees entering events, venues or offices, which will take effect October 4. Our business and our industry is about uniting people, and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together, CEO Michael Rapino wrote to the companys employees. The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? Im going to change the subject here. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. Why werent you accepting it? And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. What happened between now and then? Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. We just couldnt get along. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. As if to match it, she experimented for the first time with filtering the sound of her fiddle through effects pedals, which lends her playing a fierce luminescence. If we tell our stories, it helps other people feel empowered. And how come you didnt know before? And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. And Frankie and Lanny, my teachers we were at Lannys house the first time Tommy came over, and then, I met him. Shires wrote the song a few years ago and originally imagined it as a conversation between several women, but revamped it to feature her collaborator and husband. Look at Texas' Primary. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. Which brings up the question, why were Jason and I, and Margo Price, the biggest celebrities quasi-celebrities at the march in Nashville? Note: NPR's First Listen audio comes down after the album is released. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. And I save them all. Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. SHIRES: My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen. And the character you wrote yourself out to be, the flagship all part of my fooling. So I think she did a good job. So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. Amanda Shires appeared on The Late Late Show to perform her recent song Take It Like a Man. Playing with her band, the singer offered an emotive take on the I also received responses from trolls. But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. I am your man. That one speaks to me. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? I had people threatening me. And that, to me, was incredible, because they had abortions in what was a pre-Roe v. Wade environment and theyre only now sharing their stories for the first time. I dont have certain kinds of fatigue. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. But I did move a couple of times out of the house, not because it was a leaving thing, but because I didnt want to do anything that would harm, you know, make it worse. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. All Rights reserved. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. And that song, its part my story and part, you know, stories I know from friends. We found out that, yes, our grandmothers are pro-choice. The sound of silence rings in every room. But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. I tried so hard to make myself clear. A lark in the shower from the night to the morning after. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. Im so glad you wrote it. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin I know I can take it like a man. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. And I was reading mine. Here was my life five years ago, and heres my life now. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. And he was there for 25 years. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. Thats abundantly clear on his breakout new album, Southeastern, one of the years best in any genre. And while I I know the voice that I have is what I have. It was keeping me up at night. Amanda Rose Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and fiddle player. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. These really arent personal. Despite the many questions as to why she was undergoing the procedure which she described as having "cells removed" despite trolls labeling her a "baby killer" Shires wrote at the time, "The reasons that I chose to have an abortion are personal, and they are mine." It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. Other than that, I think were all right. If you want a driver, climb inside or only want to take me for a ride, you know you can. Amid the rise in infections, it was reported last week that one of the worlds most prominent concert promoters, Live Nation, will allow artists performing at its venues to require guests in the U.S. to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test. GROSS: Good. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. All rights reserved (About Us). And how did you figure out what you wanted your point of view to be, you know, like, who the song would be about? Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. I had to spend the night with her at work. And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. And then my orchestra teacher recommended me to a private violin teacher. I think thats what people keep forgetting. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" GROSS: Oh, yeah. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. This is FRESH AIR. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. And I dont know. And it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression and trying to do something for me that could make me make sense, I guess. It was Fault Lines.. What does that phrase mean to you? I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. I cant see a thing from here. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? And youve called on country music stars to speak out, too. Its no fun but well be alright.. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. And she would dance a little bit to the Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. Theres still just as much awe.. 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